tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8083562408112983652.post4995420142771317738..comments2024-03-07T13:56:18.596-06:00Comments on Vance History Online: Holiday Season DNA Sales!Dave Vancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10823699447442510111noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8083562408112983652.post-87983160051015590802012-12-30T11:24:48.577-06:002012-12-30T11:24:48.577-06:00Thomas - thanks for the comment! If I have the ri...Thomas - thanks for the comment! If I have the right Patrick Vance (the one who married Elizabeth McCray) you're right they seem to be a different set of DNA markers and they're classified on their own as Group 4 in the Vance/Vans/Wentz DNA project. I would also agree with you that adoption is certainly a very possible scenario for how Group 4 came about (although it's always a possibility in ANY of our DNA lines, but the isolation so far of Group 4 suggests something different about this Vance line near Patrick's time). <br /><br />I tend to think we're all in this situation since the chances of adoption or some other break between our DNA and our surnames are pretty high going all the way back to when surnames first started. <br /><br />If the Group 4 DNA report is up to date, this line has only been identified so far as M269 which is an older SNP and doesn't narrow it down much... if one of Patrick's male descendants tested their Y-dna out to 67 or 111 STRs and tested positive for later SNPs either might connect you to other genetic matches that might give you a better indication of country of origin for the DNA line or other connected surnames that could give you more clues. There are a few cases I've heard of where people have found actual biological ancestors that way but honestly it's more likely to just give you hints or probabilities that might be supported by clues in historical records etc... <br /><br />Otherwise best of luck in your continuing research. On the message boards it looks like there are several active researchers working on this line of Vances, but I'm guessing you've been at this for awhile and probably have those connections already!<br /><br />DaveDave Vancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10823699447442510111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8083562408112983652.post-48964625972756407412012-12-30T08:53:22.195-06:002012-12-30T08:53:22.195-06:00Interesting you should mention adoption. An articl...Interesting you should mention adoption. An article in the newsletter about DNA testing got me to thinking about that. I think I read where Patrick Vance (in lexington Ky 1790) and his decendants had different markers from other lines and the first thing that popped into my head was adoption. We have a history of adoption in my line so I dont find it suprising that our DNA might be different. As far as I know we haven't been able to pin down Patrick's Father. I have been speculating for a while that Patrick was adopted as many families took in orphans who became members of the family. Might even been why they went to Kentucky in the first place.<br />Thomas A. Vancehttp://thomyv.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com